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The vision of SHIBAURA HOUSE in the future

S: I started to understand how SHIBAURA HOUSE is perceived by its users. What do you see as an interesting scenario in the future? I can see a lot of scope in the mothers initiating and running their own projects, which is something you mentioned earlier. I understood half of the vision you told me about three years ago, but half of it was a little opaque. Now that this is getting clearer, we are entering a phase where one can imagine and consider the approach three years further down the line, and in a sense tackle the unclear elements then.

I: To get to the next level, I think it is important to think about the neighborhood in its entirety and think beyond SHIBAURA HOUSE. When I went to a lecture in the Netherlands three years ago, ‘resilience’ was a key term. It was referred to as the ability to recover an original form in designs and communities when a problem occurs. I didn’t quite understand it at first, but it makes sense now. I encountered several workshops and books on the idea of how to create resilient communities, during this visit. There has been a lot of support in Japan towards post-earthquake recovery, but we don't seem to find the right terms to verbalize it. Our next step will be to shape programs and mobilize people with this in mind.

S: That reminds me. When the 21st Century Museum of Contemporary Art, Kanazawa was built, I heard people saying that they started to see the galleries spreading out from the museum, which in the past was viewed as being scattered throughout the city. The exhibitions are not directly related, but the way that the galleries spread started to be seen as loosely connected through the museum.

I: It is an image of decentralization, isn’t it? What you are doing in Inujima is similar to that.

S: What is desired and happening now is that things don’t remain within a given space, they expand beyond it. Perhaps it is therefore not so important to remain within the Shibaura area. You can make things happen simultaneously in different locations, while maintaining the vision of people connecting the dots.

I: I think things like that are more usual now than three years ago.

S: The possibilities in doing something outside of Tokyo - this approach exists regardless of whether decentralization is good or not.